Press TV has conducted an interview with Sabah Jawad, with the Iraqi Democrats against Occupation from London, to ask for his insight on the recent remarks by US Defense Secretary, who said the Iraqi forces do not have the necessary will to fight the ISIL terrorists.
The following is a rough transcription of the interview.
Press TV: How could the US defense secretary say that the Iraqi soldiers don’t have the will to fight these terrorists? It appears based on what Iran has said at least that the US could get rid of these terrorists; there is a military base not too far away from Ramadi in Anbar province.
Jawad: Well, I read American newspapers that expose the American stand on this. They said the American bombardment of Ramadi did not happen because of sand storm. I mean this is an excuse they are giving for not participating in the battle for Ramadi. Of course the Iraqi army is weak. The Iraqi army has been trained and nourished by the Americans since 2003 as well. And now they are saying that the Iraqi army is not adequate. That’s not inadequate; that’s because actually of what the Americans [are] doing to the Iraqi army. They are depriving the Iraqi army of necessary weapons. Iraq purchased a lot of arms from the United States, but actually they received nothing....I mean it’s a bit far…actually for the American to claim that the Iraqi army is not doing a good job. And in fact, the Americans are trying to undermine the only force in Iraq capable of defeating ISIL terrorists and they have a proven history of this; and this is the popular mobilization force.
The Americans made it their job actually to undermine these popular forces when they [did] extremely well in parts of Iraq, in Diyala, in Saladin, in Jurf al-Sakhar and Amerli. They’ve done tremendous job and they defeated the ISIL. When these popular forces finished the job in Salahuddin and Tikrit, actually all this propaganda against them started [and was] financed...by the United States to undermine them. They even threatened the Iraqi government of allowing the popular mobilization forces to go to al-Anbar, they would help arms shipments and they will do this and that and so on. So, it was the whole saga of the American policy in Iraq actually..to undermine the fight against terrorism. They want terrorism to flourish in Iraq, but at the same time contain them to a certain level. So, they could get their way in Iraq. This is not only the story regarding Iraq; this is the story in Syria, the story in Yemen, the story in Lebanon as well.
The United States has found the way actually of implementing their policy, using terrorism and using Takfiri terrorism without them intervening directly militarily and without spending a penny and this is very important. The countries who are spending money to destroy states in the Middle East like Iraq, Syria and Yemen are the Saudis and the Qataris with the help of the Jordanian and Turkish governments as well. These are stooges of the United States’ policy in the area. If you look at the military map in Iraq, you see actually in the battle for al-Anbar for Ramadi the ISIL moved huge chunk of their forces from Mosul to attack Ramadi. And in fact the United States did not even lift the finger regarding that. And they know well actually that these forces are going to the Anbar province. And they do nothing about the easy movement of this terrorist group between Iraq and Syria. And in fact, even in cities and town that are under the control of the ISIL, they are doing military parades without American bombardment. These all are indications of the United States’ policy in the Middle East to destroy these countries, to fragment the people, to create sectarian tension among the people so they could stay. And it is for the benefits of their multinational companies and for the benefits of their stooges and Israel.
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